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Went to se an ex-German naval vessel yesterday ( torpedo recovery vessel ) that was advertised on the net recently with the photo of it in the water.
Unfortunately, as I discovered, it was a long time since she saw any water, as my pictures of her yesterday show.
I had considered taking her on as she was advertised as "structurally sound" , but have since changed my mind.
Also her two-part keel has begun seperating so she will need totally dismantling on site and all the useful bits (note I don't use the word salvageable) removing to be remanufactured or refurbished and put back together.
Yes, I know it's an impossible dream, but it breaks my heart to see such an interesting and historical boat (apparently she was captured by the Royal Navy in 1944) dying in a foreign boatyard.


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Couldn't fit them all in one go:-


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she is in quite a state and im not sure how much of her would be left at the end of a restoration :cry: . I bet they were asking quite abit for her aswell.

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He actually wanted a couple of grand for her, but somehow I think he's going to end up begging for people to take her away ( I think he's still paying storage fees! )
It's not really the cost of the boat that put me off, it's the transport, storage, materials and time that could really bankrupt you ( as I think the present owner has discovered ).


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yeah i think your probaly right mate. You would definatly have to do almost all the work yourself and you'ed still end up bankrupt. Its such a shame as it would be great to see her back in the water. :D Where is she at the moment?

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She's way up North. I did have a transport company lined up that had quoted me for transporting her down here, but I don't think she's capable of making the journey in one piece.
(mind you, they quoted me for an extermly large transporter. I think all you'd need now was a chainsaw and a scrap lorry. Much cheaper!)


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It always amazes me why people leave things like this sitting around for so long so by the time they decied to sell it, its to far gone to be restored :cry:

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My thoughts exactly. Which is why I posted this topic. I wanted other people to be as depressed as me.
Sorry about that.
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I've just gone back to the original website. He's put it back on there!
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F59711/
But I notice he's dropped the price considerably! Ah well, best of luck to him, he's going to need it!


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Come on, surely IWM or someone can pay £500? I know restoration costs are gonna be hefty, but for the moment they don't have to restore it, do they? At Duxford, they have loads of planes in similar condition, but until they come to be restored they go on display as-is.


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if you leave it much longer there ain't going to be much to restore and like tim said, it probaly can't be moved without breaking it up at the moment, and im sure the restoration cost are going to be mind blowing, and where do you put something 72ft long under cover to try and stop it rotting any more. :shock:

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Makes you wonder if Historic Warships at Birkenhead would be interested.

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Kolya, just go to Chatham dockyard and see how many boats they have there unrestored.

It takes a lot of expert time effort and of course loads of manoey to restore something like this to usable condition. The dockyard are still spending loads on HMS Cavalier. You just get one bit done and something else needs doing.

It would take years to get it into a reasonable condition for display let alone use.

It makes me very sad to see this sort of thing :( :(

Oh well.


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Tim,
Why not buy an airfix kit, it would be cheaper. Ok so you couldn't use it but you'd have fun making it..

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Ha ha Ha. Oooh, where's the sani? There goes my hernia.

Anyway, I've passed on all the info on to Birkenhead and the Military Powerboat Trust in Southampton, but neither have even acknowledged receipt of the message. I guess they see this sort of thing all too often.

What really hacks me off is all these eejits who win the lottery, buy a round of drinks for their mates in the pub, and complain that they've run out of ideas about spending the rest!!!!!!!


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