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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:46 am 
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I've found a German site that has WWII dated (44/45) Russian PPS43's for sale at the knock out price of €229 (£154). I have a friend in Germany who has sent me the odd bit of Militaria and he was agreeable to sending me one. I took the course of making enquiries first and was told that, as the guns were deactivated to German standards (i.e. pre-'95 spec) they were classed in the UK as a Class5 weapon. BUMMER!!! Another dream bites the dust!!

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Yeah, that happens a fair bit... you see some lovely stuff outta Germany and even more out of Russia but sadly you cannot get it over here...

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well i wont tell if you don't tell!


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I've found a German site that has WWII dated (44/45) Russian PPS43's for sale at the knock out price of €229 (£154). I have a friend in Germany who has sent me the odd bit of Militaria and he was agreeable to sending me one. I took the course of making enquiries first and was told that, as the guns were deactivated to German standards (i.e. pre-'95 spec) they were classed in the UK as a Class5 weapon. BUMMER!!! Another dream bites the dust!!


Pay a UK sec 5 to get it for you and redeactivate it

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The only problem with that is that I pay even more for a welded-up piece of junk!!

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Ryton arms told me they were getting a new batch of PPSh41s and PPS43s. Aparently 200 of each but they couldnt stick a price on it!!! They should be in by febuary!

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Hmmm if they have some genuine Soviet PPS43's I will have one new spec or not!

They are VERY hard to find as Soviet made items - I don't think the Soviets made or issued them after 1945...

You see plenty of Chinese copies of them and sometimes Bulgarian ones, but not Soviet...

Hopefully John Oxlade and Steve Vickers will buy a few live on ticket too - the PPS43 is a beauty to blank fire - double stacked stick mags always feed 100% - even with crimped blank! Unlike the PPSh41...

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Hmmm if they have some genuine Soviet PPS43's I will have one new spec or not!

They are VERY hard to find as Soviet made items - I don't think the Soviets made or issued them after 1945...



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This fact would cause the Kent Military District to enlarge its War store Emil Armoury, improve its Scale of Issue and redouble its GPW Combat readiness.

The Down side would be the issuing of 4+ Magazines to this Command as this Weapon System is not yet on the Scale of Norm as ordered by Moscow Centre, the Soviet issue PPS 43 pouch is already in store due to an issuing failure , which was dealt with in the normal way.. :cry:

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In the email he sent me they just said they were getting them in with lots of spare mags, drums, slings, ect. and that the ones he saw were top quailtiy but no date was mentioned or where they were made :( (but it did say they were coming from Russia)


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If they are coming from their normal source it will be the Ukraine rather than Russia proper.

The Russians have very high expectations when it comes to the value of their surplus kit.


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If they are coming from their normal source it will be the Ukraine rather than Russia proper.

The Russians have very high expectations when it comes to the value of their surplus kit.


Da!, :wink: due to its highly advanced, progressive , purely defensive nature.. :lol:

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The Russians have very high expectations when it comes to the value of their surplus kit.


None of the stuff from Ryton seems that expensive... either he's making no money or?

From what I've heard its not a case of high values on each item, its just that if you want say, PPS43's, sure but they will only sell them 1000 at a time or its "not worth doing the deal"... which probably translates to "its expensive to get everyone bribed (from security guard to customs official) to aquire the items and we only want to do it once"

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the seedy under world or reenactment... it cant be all that vicious can it.... *gulp*


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I'm surprised no one has bought those 4 Sniper SVT rifles he's got in stock!

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the seedy under world or reenactment... it cant be all that vicious can it.... *gulp*


No, just the way things work in many parts of the former USSR. I've heard stories of tourists being 'talked to' by the police who fined them £100 for no good reason, of course it wasn't a fine so much as a bribe to not find a reason.

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good old seedy reenactment.... its like a crime ring


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