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LAH 650 have a look at the bottom of Karoshi's last post.

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LAH 650 have a look at the bottom of Karoshi's last post.


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Learn to read young man, learn to read....

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Ok Thanks better put my glasses on next time ......... :wink:

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Not that it is my area of expertise but it was my understanding that disintergrating links were used in aircraft mounted .30 cals. Not sure how you would get belts to work in four gun turret on in a wing? :?

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I did actually see a picture of a Dauntless gunner with twin .30's that were fed by a cloth belt.

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As for re-using loose link shot from Lewis guns on a Warbird, well..........
ww2 american warbirds using a lewis gun in the pictures posted. I think specsavers needs a mention. A lewis gun using loose linked? shot? i thought a lewis gun used a drum or do we all need to go to spec saver. :banghead:


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Who? that'll be me. Yes I'm sorry, I said Lewis Guns, when of course I should have said Lewis's guns. My mistake.

And a picture of a wooden chest full of links does not confirm their ground role use during ww2. Please just ONE period photo, just one.


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Lewis guns are indeed drum fed. This is all getting very confusing! :P

So, from this thread it is my understanding that used links from a .50 cal are to be used in lewis guns on your aeroplane while on the ground in combat and that you wear your cloth belt to hold up your .30 cals.......... but only if youi are not post-war!? :insane: :lolroll:

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erm, the planes pictured would have had Brownings not Lewis guns. I believe that only a few British aircraft had Lewises mounted and only very early on before they were replaced with Brownings as well.

And Karoshi, you were right the first time with Lewis guns, (they didn't belong to Lewis)

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ok, this is from the book 'Hard Rain'

"....Fabric belts were used used in .30 caliber ground guns until late 1945, when metallic belt links began to be issued to ground troops. Previously metallic links were only used for aircraft applications."

it goes on to say

"...In combat situations links were considered expendable. During training excercises however, an effort was made to salvage them."

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Here we have combat proof, photo is said to be taken in Normandy.

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Nice 1917a1!


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No need for to say photo "said" to be taken in Normandy, as it is for definite - it's the 4th Infantry Div coming off Utah Beach.

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The colt 1928 the fore runner to the 1917A1 produce during the late 20s, was manufactured with a steel insert so steel links did not damage the brass trunion. As requested by Argentina, the buyer. Steel links were in use way before WW2.


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.50 cal browning also had cloth belts, to get even more confusing, got photos of them in use in Normandy


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Would be nice to see.


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Didnt know if it could have been from Sicily or Italy? Thanks for clearing it up Glen.

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Lewis guns are indeed drum fed.
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Lewis's guns are belt fed!!

That is also a true statement according to the Dauntless flight log, :)

Passenger................... Lewis. :wink:

Although if you really want to be a pedant, the links actually belong to Uncle Sam and not Mr Lewis.


As to link or cloth fed, I recon the picture isn't conclusive,although it looks like it may be linked.

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